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The only Slattery photos I've seen are from outside in Stockport July '79, he also photographed JD on stage at the Electric Ballroom in Oct '79. There may well be some indoor photos of his from Strawberry or elsewhere showing the band by a pool table of course, but if so I haven't seen them. 

There's a darkish photo from Paris Dec '79 which looks a bit like what you describe; Ian is standing on the far right, you can't really see his face, and he's leaning on what looks like a pool table, the other three can all be seen grinning, this photo is by Pierre Rene-Worms though, and was published in Rock et Folk no. 200/Sept '83. I think it's also featured in the early editions of the Lumiere & Tenebres book.

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According to Hooky in the Q&A after his JD book launch Ian Curtis used to play pool well using only one hand with his cigarette waving around in the other one.
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There is a similar picture in the L&T book (3rd edition from '93, page 52), this shows Ian's face and the pool table more clearly.
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Moderator is absolutely right - the photo is in the lumiere et tenebres book. Mine is the 1992 edition and the photo is on page 110. I think all the photos in the book are taken by Pierre Rene-Worms in Paris around 18th December 1979.
So did Paul slattery take the photos of the band in the industrial estate in Stockport and the one standing behind the barrier by the road that is used on the Here are the young men poster?

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Hello All.

I'm new to the forum and have joined to add my copy of 'Licht Und Blindheit' to your list. 
It will be new to you, it's No:386 and along with a couple of previous posters to this thread, I bought it on its release from Pete Stennett at Small Wonder Records in Walthamstow,
London. I see the last poster who purchased from there has No:370 which is close enough to indicate Pete’s batch of copies.
I didn't listen to John Peel very often and on one of the few nights I did, I heard 'Atmosphere'. Next day I visited Pete’s shop on my way home from school, as we very often did and asked him about it. He said, "I've got it but it's an import and expensive". When I asked him how expensive he told me it was £3.50, which was a bit of a shock as that was more than an album cost in those days. I don't even recall how I had that much money on me but I did have it and I did buy it and I still have it. 

I’m not what you’d call a Joy Division fan and don’t really have much more knowledge of the music bar a few singles of the time, but have been aware of the cache surrounding this record for many years. I was once offered the ‘Beat The Boots’ vinyl box set by Zappa in exchange for it, brand new and a very rare item itself, but I chose to buy that and hang onto the single instead, much to the guy’s disappointment (he worked at the HMV store on Oxford Street & had managed to get one of the reserved boxes for me, before he knew I had the Joy Division). In hindsight, a very good decision on my part. I also bought one of the re-issue records a few years back. I don’t think I’ve even opened that & am not sure what colour it is now, though I think it’s probably black vinyl.

Anyway, I’ll be selling the original quite soon (possibly the re-issue too) as my lovely wife wants a new cooker to go with her re-vamped kitchen & the cooker she wants is a bit of a wad to buy so I figure that I should put my lucky purchase to good use after all these years and let someone a little more enthusiastic about the band have their chance to own The Grail of their output. It’s generally in very good condition and all present and correct with the inserts, brown (partly) glued pocket and plastic sleeve for the record. There is some rubbing on the edges of the cover folder but they are fairly minimal and the record was played over the years but not extensively and as far as I know until I rig my deck up again and try it, is unscratched.

Fleabuy seems the way to go and I’ll have to do some research regarding prices, but if any of you good people would like to PM me via the site regarding making me a sensible offer, then please feel free to do so.

I’m still situated in the London area.

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Next day I visited Pete’s shop on my way home from school, as we very often did and asked him about it. He said, "I've got it but it's an import and expensive". When I asked him how expensive he told me it was £3.50, which was a bit of a shock as that was more than an album cost in those days. I don't even recall how I had that much money on me but I did have it and I did buy it and I still have it.



This is like the "happy ending" version of my own story - went into Poo-Bah Records in Pasadena California one day and in the back of the new 7" singles bin behind the door sat our friend SS 33002, ill-fitting in a rack meant for bog-standard 7" issues.

As to the price I could be wrong about this but US $4.58 has stayed in my memory after all these years.  Unfortunately in those days I was completely skint and essentially on the equivalent of the dole over here in the States at the time.  So my wallet was empty but I vowed to return and get it the next time as soon as I had the cash.  Tried to hide it in the back of the rack but I think you can probably guess the rest!  
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BTW, # 1429 (not in the master list) shows up on this Angelfire page.  Probably hard to track down the page owner, I doubt the e-mail address works.  (Impressive collection though!)

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The Happy One's list is a very useful resource I must say.
I see 381 was unsold on fleabuy earlier this year with a very high start price. Seller in Waltham Cross which is only a few miles from Walthamstow, so another assumedly bought from Small Wonder's batch. Though 562 was another which means Pete must have had a couple of hundred of them at least, if his batch was concurrently numbered. I think we were lucky to have his shop so local to us.
I just googled him actually & am very glad to see he's still alive which is contrary to what I heard quite some years ago. In case anyone's interested, here's a recent interview with him: http://www.musiclikedirt.com/2013/07/22/pete-stennett-of-small-wonder-records-interview-part-1/
 
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Dilettante and RiotNrrrd, thanks for both your contributions, I've added them to my page.


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Hi Happy One
Can I add no.000528 to your list.

Thanks to Dilettante for the post on this, because I also bought my copy at Small Wonder Records in Walthamstow. I was brought up in Stratford E15, so Walthamstow was a short bus ride away, and Small Wonder was somewhere I spent hours on a Saturday getting an education.......

I remember buying my copy around March 1980 and bunking off school to do so with my mate Jodi who also bought one (no idea what number he had unfortunately). I knew Pete was getting this in so I'm pretty certain I got in there sharpish.

Thanks for the link to the interview with Pete as well; brought back so many memories of Pete and the shop; Colin Faver who worked in the shop - shit hot DJ (who I met on the rave scene years later and couldnt believe he was the 'old' hippy from SW!!). cadging badges off Pete (if he was in a good mood)....probabbly need to post these memories on another site....

if i can ever work out how to upload photos on this site i'll post photos of my copy of Sordide Sentimental and my JD gig tickets if anyones interested

 
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CandySays: added!
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You're welcome CandySays.
My discovery that Pete was still around and finding the interview came as a direct result of posting on here with my memories then causing me to visit the Google search box with Pete's name. The last time I tried it some years ago, there was nothing except a few lines on some blog somewhere.
It caused some welcome memories among my friends too.
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#1286 up with a BIN of £850...looks familiar, anyone else think the same?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOY-DIVISION-SORDIDE-SENTIMENTAL-DEAD-SOULS-ATMOSPHERE-100-ORIGINAL-/111172788431?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

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Photograph of the photographer.....taken at the 12 Bar Club in London during the Fallen Leaves' set on 2nd September. I'm the guy in the hat checking his mobile. The fella posing with the bottle is Paul Slattery - the JD photographer mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
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i 'dunno' if nr. 108 has been listed but this one has a briliant sub-text :

"The Holy Grail and rarely seen of all Joy Division Vinyl, Licht und Blindheit.   This extremely well preserved, complete and importantly low numbered and to my knowledge unplayed example showing the correct discolouration as described on the highly regarded Joy Division Central website (see second image)."

'On the original folders the glue which was used to glue the plastic wallet to the folder has turned a horrible brown over time (this is written in 2005)'

Google   Sordide Sentimental-Joy Division Central

or 

http://www.joydiv.org/lub.htm

http://www.joydiv.org

"Please visit this great website if you need any more info on this incredible piece of Music history which can only appreciate more in value. "

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joy-Division-Licht-und-Blindheit-Sordide-Sentimental-ORIGINAL-/161120292356














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The cover edges are well worn, quite a bit more so than mine.
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Photograph of the photographer.....taken at the 12 Bar Club in London during the Fallen Leaves' set on 2nd September. I'm the guy in the hat checking his mobile. The fella posing with the bottle is Paul Slattery - the JD photographer mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

An Englishman who's a Boston Bruins hockey fan??? [confused]
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Dunno about the T-shirt but having spoke to the guy his accent definitely renders him English!
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i 'dunno' if nr. 108 has been listed but this one has a briliant sub-text :

"The Holy Grail and rarely seen of all Joy Division Vinyl, Licht und Blindheit.   This extremely well preserved, complete and importantly low numbered and to my knowledge unplayed example showing the correct discolouration as described on the highly regarded Joy Division Central website (see second image)."

'On the original folders the glue which was used to glue the plastic wallet to the folder has turned a horrible brown over time (this is written in 2005)'

Google   Sordide Sentimental-Joy Division Central

or 

http://www.joydiv.org/lub.htm

http://www.joydiv.org

"Please visit this great website if you need any more info on this incredible piece of Music history which can only appreciate more in value. "

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joy-Division-Licht-und-Blindheit-Sordide-Sentimental-ORIGINAL-/161120292356



Reserve not met at £565.









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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joy-Division-Licht-und-Blindheit-Sordide-Sentimental-Number-16-Signed-by-Hooky-/190952156541?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1120

Well our old friend Toys and Collectables has surfaced with this - #16 blows my #39 out of the water, though yet again signed by Hooky, which to my mind actually cheapens rather than enhances it.

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Is this the biggest thread on the forum or what? It's the biggest one I know of.
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Perhaps.  It's certainly the most viewed, though, as it's getting close to 20k hits.   I've updated http://www.new-order.net/jd/facs/sordidsentimental.html with the last few updates, thanks guys.

I agree with slumpy about the effect on its value.  If only Hooky had the gumption to have signed it "Ian Curtis", would have paid what this ends up going for to have seen the look on the Toys and Collectables' guy's face.
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@thehappyone: Yes, a waspish and downright unnecessary remark and not in the spirit of this site at all. Sorry. I've removed it for what it's worth.
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