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Phildo

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All I can say is "nice job, Drew", and cheers to Duncan.  Heard the ULU CD today, and it far exceeded my expectations.  Superbly done.  And pretty cool that the guys who made this possible post on this very forum.  Cool as fuck!

Anyone reckon we could persuade London Records to do a Pearl Jam and issue pretty much everything?  Get Drew to clean up what he can?

Eh?  Eh?


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I just received the remastered versions of UP, Closer and Still!
I'd like to thank Duncan and Drew for their extraordinary collaboration and the amazing sound of the live recordings.
I compared the sound of the bootlegs and the remastered versions: the difference is amazing, we've got the impression to be in the crowd, you've just to close your eyes and you can see Joy Division on stage !...more dynamic, more bass, more details in the "rendu sonore".
Joy Division is still alive !...
For the nerds, i also compared the sound of UP, Closer and Still with my high end stuff:
I think there is no big differences with the original (factory records) Cd: maybe more dynamic and bass (but it's not eloquent!...).
Personaly, i do prefer the original (maybe more high frequencies ?...) especially because the sleeve of UP is textured (CD with Car Carry Case) and not the reissue, the paper of Closer is not as thick as the original one.
Maybe, it could be great that "Still" were a triple cd (including 24 Hours) to respect the concept of 2 parts of the original "Still".

Thank you Duncan and Drew!

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I've only bought the "Closer" re-issue so far and have to agree, both the studio and live disks are excellent. Ditto the compliments to Duncan and Drew. I'm sure this collaboration was a labour of love, not money and I hope their trials and efforts haven't gone unnoticed within the "official" camp.
I was also touched by the depth and sincerity of the "sleeve notes". Always good to see PH, BS and SM talking on the page as if they were in the same room together. The subject matter, so many years on, must be wearing on them occasionally, but the text sits incredibly fresh on the page, akin to a filmed interview. 10/10

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Re the High Wycombe gig on "Still" - the speed at which Barney and Hooky swapped the guitar and bass from "Sound Of Music" to "A Means To An End" could probably bend space and time..... 

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Also, the short gap between the gig and the soundcheck on the High Wycombe disc is pretty disastrously brief, considering the one came before the other.

Things have been edited away from the soundcheck but actually it's not too bad an edit if you're a record company that tampers with things. The transfer / manipulation of Duncan's recordings has come out good. Personally I wouldn't have put so much boomy bass underneath it.
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There's an interesting follow-up somewhere on the net.....

Does this change our feelings, I think so!

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One thing I find slightly disappointing about the reissues is that although they have been beautifully packaged there are numerous typos in the essays in the booklet. Does no-one bother to proof read the things before they get sent off to be printed?
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This is really no different than what I posted here - just pegged to an audience who by nature is suspicious of any major label doings. Steve Albini and majors are not, one could say, bedfellows...

Of course I stand by my work, am extremely proud to be associated with this, etc etc. Nothing will ever be perfect but things could have always been a lot worse.

drew

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I believe there were numerous proof readers.

At least there was no messing about in West Hampstead.
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sorry, just a bit confused. Did any of this remastering take place at EA???? As I thought they only did recording.

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sorry, just a bit confused. Did any of this remastering take place at EA???? As I thought they only did recording.

EA had absolutely nothing to do with this. The live album mastering I did took place at my apartment, the studio album remastering (and whatever Warners did with the live stuff we gave them) took place somewhere in the UK.

That's also correct, EA is a recording studio only afaik. A great one that is.

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thanks for clearing that up drew. my band is actually looking to do some stuff there over the summer.


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It's taken me 3 and a half years but I finally bought UP yesterday and by strange coincidence,I note that it was 32 years to the day from when JD stepped into the studio to start recording.

In the notes JS says that amongst other things there is the sound of crisps being eaten in he recordings; I assume that he is referring to Autosuggestion? Surely this is someone, presumably IC, taking out and striking a match??
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i too finally bought UP havent compared to the existent Factory bootlegs, but from what i read in here i think its far better...

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here someone can grab an U.P. promo from warner bro's:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130738974755

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Interesting forum discussing various UP cd releases:
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/joy-division-on-cd.88587/

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The forum mentioned in my above post is by the guy who done remastering for the re-releases but they were not used.interestingly there are a few promo copies for sale on US ebay,which should be interesting.
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Here,reasonable price if you go by its scarcity:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/JOY-DIVISION-2007-Unknown-Pleasures-RTI-Test-Pressing-LP-UNRELEASED-Hoffman-Gray/382756152873?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
and closer:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/JOY-DIVISION-2007-Closer-Vinyl-180-Gram-LP-Test-Pressing-UNRELEASED-Hoffman-Gray/382756152462?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

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