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General_Craig

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Hey all, not sure if a topic like this has been posted before, but had an idea for a little bit of fun and thought I'd post it:

The premise is to create yourself a 12-song (10 songs for the main gig and then 2 as an encore) JD live setlist using different gigs for each song you choose. So, if you used Shadowplay from Bowden Vale, you wouldn't be able to pick another song from that gig.

Song positions on your setlist don't have to mirror the actual position they were performed in the gig - though you can try and fit that criteria if you're really hardcore!

No rehearsals or TV performances please.

Here's mine:

Dead Souls                   (Apollo Theatre, 27/10/79)
Ceremony                    (High Hall, 2/5/80)
Shadowplay                 (Warehouse 28/2/80)
Disorder                      (Futurama, 8/9/79)
Twenty Four Hours       (Paradiso, 11/1/80)
Heart and Soul             (Ajantha, 19/4/80)
She's Lost Control         (Lyceum, 29/2/80)
Transmission                (LBD 18/12/79)
Love Will Tear Us Apart  (ULU 8/2/80)
At a Later Date            (Electric Circus, 2/10/77)

Encore:
Atmosphere                 (Malvern, 5/4/80)
Atrocity Exhibition         (Moonlight Club 3/4/80)


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Very tricky test - so many options / choices ...especially given that ive realised that a number of my favourite gigs contain what i class to be killer live versions of my favourite tracks (ie. Malvern, Birmingham, Lyceum, etc). That said, here's mine :

1.   Dead Souls          University of London, 8th Feb 80
2.   Wilderness           Leeds Futurama Festival, 8th Sept 79
3.   Shadowplay         Birmingham High Hall, 2nd May 80
4.   Isolation              Malvern Winter Gardens, 5th April 80
5.   The Eternal          Preston, 28th Feb 80
6.   Autosuggestion     Eindhoven, 18th Jan 80
7.   These Days          Leeds Roots Club, 11th July 79
8.   Transmission         Factory, 13th July 79
9.    She's Lost Control   London Lyceum, 29th Feb 80
10.  Atrocity Exhibition   Amsterdam, 11th Jan '80

11. Sound of Music       Rainbow, 9th Nov 79
12. Digital                   Leigh Festival, 27th Aug 79
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I've eventually managed to come up with a set in which all the songs are at their respective positions within their individual sets! A bit contrived, maybe, but it's still a cracking set and (mostly) very good recordings!

1. I remember noting  (Futurama 8/9/79)
2. Wilderness              (Paris 18/12/79)
3. Colony                    (Leigh 27/8/79)
4. Heart and soul         (Moonlight Club 3/4/80)
5. Transmission           (YMCA 2/8/79)
6. New dawn fades      (Amsterdam 11/1/80)
7. Dead souls              (Eindhoven 18/1/80)
8. Disorder                  (Birmingham 2/5/80)
9. Interzone                (Factory 13/7/79)
10. Atrocity exhibition  (Nashville Rooms 22/9/79)

11. The eternal            (ULU 8/2/80)
12. She's lost control   (Preston 28/2/80)

Does that give me extra JD hardcore credibility points?
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Not an easy task, and to be honest this time tomorrow there would probably be a totally different selection, but for what it is worth, I think this set-list would blow my mind:

1. Dead Souls                   (Effenaar, Eindhoven 18/1/80)

2. Wilderness                    (Lyceum Ballroom 29/2/80)
3. Disorder                       (Leeds Futurama Festival, 8/979)
4. Colony                          (University of London Union 8/2/80)
5. Transmission                 (The Factory 13/7/79)
6. Atmosphere                  (Amsterdam, Paradiso 11/1/80)
7. Love Will Tear Us Apart  (High Wycombe Town Hall 20/2/80)
8. These Days                   (Winter Gardens 02/11/79)
9. Atrocity Exhibition         (Moonlight Club 3/4/80)
10. Decades                     (High Hall, Birmingham 2/5/80)

11. The Eternal                 (Preston Warehouse  28/2/80)
12. Warsaw                      (Les Bains Douches, Paris 18/12/79)
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I've not gotten far on my list but I have decided "She's Lost Control" at the Lyceum Feb 1980 is the best version ever. "Isolation" there is in the running but ....I don't think it'll make the cut despite all its perkiness and such.

"Sister Ray" is *always* the definitive encore :-)
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Okay, we're opening with the Open Air Festival at Leigh version of "Transmission"-because that's the most transmitted-sounding version I've heard yet.
Then moving right in to "Colony," "Insight," "Disorder," and "Dead Souls" from the same.
Then we take a break. To cool off. Because JD was seriously sssmmmoooookin' that night! WOW! Whee!:-)

(This space reserved for future use.)

a da da da

"She's Lost Control," The Lyceum

break. refreshments are served. Etc.

Encore: "Sister Ray"
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1. Dead Souls - it's a great song to open a gig with.
2. Shadowplay - that just sounds like it'd be great after Dead Souls.
3. Transmission - DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE TO THE RADIO! [need I say any more?]
4. She's Lost Control - I like to dance to that.
5. Interzone - Interzone rocks!
6. The Kill - "Just something that I knew I had to do... but through it all I kept my eyes on you..." love the lyrics.
7. Ice Age - "I... I'm living in the ice age!" Again, the lyrics are great.
8. Exercise One - "When you're looking at life, in a bright new room..." 
9. Heart and Soul - creepy bassline, whining guitar solos and the lyrics, well, I can't find the right word.
10. Twenty Four Hours - Again, love the bassline, and it's just one of my faves.

Encore:
11. Disorder - well, of course, I've got to have my favourite Joy Division song on the list somewhere.
12. Digital - "Don't ever fade away, fade away, fade away, fade away..." and the bassline's just ace. 

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Adding "I Remember Nothing" from The Band on the Wall gig. The guitars here are pretty much beyond words. ON EDIT: after another listen , I found some words: primordial soup. Steaming . Teeming. A thick, humid mystical mist throbbing and turgid. Life awaiting birth. Punctuated by the great wail from within:"Weeeeeeee...were straaangers...."

Just totally fcking awesome sound surrounding all around. If I'd been there to hear that live I think I'd have oozed back to my own primordial state to be mopped up off the floor.
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1. I remember nothing
2. Wilderness
3. New Dawn Fades
4. A Means to an End
5. No Love Lost
6. Novelty
7. Shadowplay
8. Warsaw
9. Interzone
10. Atmosphere
TJ

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I Remember Nothing (Bournemouth)
Wilderness (Paris)
24 Hours (Preston)
Heart and Soul (Moonlight)
The Eternal (Lyceum)
LWTUA (High Wycombe)
Isolation (Malvern)
These Days (Derby)
Transmission (Leeds Roots)
Atrocity Exhibition (Factory 13/7/79)

A Means To An End (Amsterdam)
Interzone (Cologne)

 

 

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its worth noticin that no one included insight in their set list. Jd played that song virtually every night beginning the autumn of 79 and also Hooky writes in his book that he considers that song one of the best of Jd. I dont think so: in fact I considerit it one of the worst with those pathetic lyrics  ("I remember when we were young" !?!) and those awful sound effects. I think most of you woyld agree with me

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+1
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Personally I love Insight, it was the first JD song I heard on 14th Feb 1979 and the one that struck a chord with me. It was quite unusual for a 22 year old to sing about remembering when he was young, that one line resonated with me and started the journey.
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It's the variable quality of the sound effects that steers me clear of "Insight." That plus 30-some odd years of seemingly every song having to have a passage like that has greatly wearied me of synthesized "music."

For the same reasons I often skip listening to "The Eternal."
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Those sounds were groundbreaking at the time - can't think of any other bands who used syndrums the same way, and The Eternal is a masterpiece of production.
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There are so few bands that have the ability to deliver live sets that include such a varied mix of song styles and content

JD are one .... the only other i can think of is the Velvet Underground
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Adore 'Insight', both UP and Peel versions. I used to love slapping it on at wanky student parties; the two insane syn-drum breaks always seemed to offend everyone in the room except me, which says rather a lot. Live it was a beauty too; I'm especially fond of the Ajanta Cinema version.
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I just love Insight to bits, slightly dream like quality to some of the Vocals,

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Found this today wandering round the internet. DON'T listen to it if you are susceptible to being set off off off by weird sounds. This is two Stanford professors work of turning a brain seizure into music. It immediately brought to my mind "Exercise One" and "Echo voices ring the halls" as well as "Insight," "The Eternal," and Ian's howling on (especially ) "Sound of Music." Plus thoughts of OMFG if this is what Ian experienced how did he stay sane??!

Again, DON'T LISTEN IF you feel it might adversely affect you-
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Insight is a song I don't go out of my way to listen to, but once it has started playing I never skip through it. The version at Plan K is intense, even with the crappy audio quality the syndrum sections were almost deafening. Must have been amazing to witness them in person.

One of my only gripes with Hooky's Joy Division performances is that Insight doesn't feature the syndrums.

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Never let it be said "You all forgot Rudolf Hess!" -adding "Warsaw" at Effenaar to my set list. That rendiion s extremely definitive.

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Adding "Passover" at the Ajanta.
Vocals-excellent, drums-super, guitar-reaching Jimi Hendrix levels (at times), bass-as always absolutely rock steady and right on
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(not meaning to hi-jack this thread as I have already provided input into my ideal Joy Division setlist)

...but I wanted to briefly talk of 'Insight' as it has been discussed in this thread.

For myself 'Insight' contains some of the most personal lyrics that Ian Curtis wrote and as such the song itself resonates a very personal and almost private feel.  Added to Martin Hannetts sound effects production on the studio version lends the feeling (to myself at least) that something is being 'unlocked for you to discover' as you listen to the song.  I have always had that feeling with this song which left a powerful mark, and still does.

Of course, I may of course have that well and truly wrong and other might have a totally different slant on the track but that in itself is the beauty of the song, that after being initially released in 1979 still has the desire of  fans to talk of its content to this day, and that it offers itself for interpretation still.
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I love the lyrics of "Insight" but am consistently annoyed by the synth stuff. They distract me from my up to then total enjoyment of not only the lyrics but the music. Yes I know it was ground-breaking at the time but as time has gone by the synth stuff has over-ridingly dated what's truly a timeless song.
Same thing with "The Eternal"-why oh why was there a need to include what sounds to me like rattlesnakes giving warning?! Wtf do rattlesnakes have to do with the song is what *always* comes to my mind no matter how hard I try not to think that.

The rendition of "Insight" on my list is the only one I've found so far that best measures up to my idea of how it's really supposed to sound.
Providing so many different musical strokes for so many different folks is one of the true beauties , wonders, and fascinations of Joy Division :-)
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