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Mick Ronson's daughter Lisa and her band 'The Secret History' huge JD fans


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Every freaking musician under the sun. Including Kanye West. And none of them speak Ian Curtis.
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I like the first Secret History CD ...I bought it and will buy the new one ...... 
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PhilC / SB - Just going back to Pat Nevin, ex Chelsea and Everton ....

"Conveniently, the delay meant his contract was unsigned as the team prepared for a friendly with Brentford – the same night that New Order were playing at the Royal Festival Hall. For someone who’d never seen Joy Division play live, a plot emerged. “I’m not re-signing unless you take me off at half time,” he told manager John Neal.

Nevin got to see the gig, and the rest is the stuff of legend."

From an article here : http://www.isthismusic.com/pat-nevin


Mind you, does seem odd to play a friendly game on the monday straight after the last saturday of the season, so who knows .. maybe its just the stuff of legend ?

Just found a programme from a pre-season friendly from '84/'85 which is dated 15/08/84 ....so teh mystery thickens 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/brentford-v-chelsea-15-8-1984-friendly-/400515187526?nma=true&si=dYNWXNi5nazHJ%252BOY1BwdG9KCEj8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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Jose Gonzalez loved Joy Division! He did a cover of LWTUA
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Not yet famous, maybe he will be in the future, the leader of the (Labour) Opposition in New Zealand - his  favourite band:
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/09/12/top-5-joy-division-songs-cunliffeshuffle/

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Jeremy Vine loves them.  Shame he doesn't play them much on his show.  I suppose it wouldn't go down too well with the usual Radio 2 lunch time patrons [smile]
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Jane Horrocks

"I'm a massive fan of Joy Division, I love their music - particularly the lyrics"



According to the Belfast Telegaph:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/horrocks-releases-indie-covers-29625500.html

The Absolutely Fabulous star is self-releasing the songs by the Mancunian acts over the next few weeks and says she is considering further songs by space-rock veterans Hawkwind and 80s electronic act Cabaret Voltaire. Jane said she had been inspired by her latest movie role in Sunshine On Leith for which she had to perform tracks by The Proclaimers, including hit single Letter From America.

"I thought they were so interesting with female voices, and I thought you heard the lyrics in a totally different way, and I thought I'd like to do that with a couple of my favourite songs - and these are indeed my favourite songs.

"I'm a massive fan of Joy Division, I love their music - particularly the lyrics. So that's why I chose them - mainly because I'm a fan."

She added: "I'm reliving my 20s again."

Jane, who has recorded Joy Division's Isolation and former Smiths star Morrissey's Life Is A Pigsty, said it seemed appropriate to cover Manchester bands because of the proximity to her home town of Rawtenstall.

She said: "At the moment I've no plans to release a physical copy, but I'm going to see how it goes on iTunes first, and possibly do something like release a 7-inch - do an A and B-side.

"I've self-funded it, and am self-publicising it as well. It's cost quite a lot of money to make the records anyway. I've got decent people playing on it and I got a very good producer, so I kind of don't want to spend any more money on a publicity person."

Asked about other tracks she would like to record, she said: " Hashish by Hawkwind, and Nag Nag Nag by Cabaret Voltaire - that's an old 80s song. They used to play it in the clubs that I used to go to, and it's only got one lyric, which is 'nag nag nag'.

"Most people think when I say I've done a couple of songs that it's going to be Judy Garland or Gracie Fields, so it comes as a bit of a surprise. But that's the music that I really like."
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If she's going to cover "Nag Nag Nag" she should do her research - there's three verses in that song!
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Have we had Ian Rankin yet?

http://www.clashmusic.com/features/foundations-ian-rankin#.UoQrLHv-DuZ.twitter

Music runs like an invisible thread throughout many of Ian Rankin’s books. Clash enjoyed an illuminating conversation with the novelist about his five most influential albums; those that inspire him to write and those that his most famous creation, ... One of which is ...

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Joy Division – ‘Unknown Pleasures’ (1979)

At university a friend came round one night, and he had a spare ticket for a band called Joy Division. I said, “I can’t go, I’m writing an essay,” so I missed my only chance to go and see them play in concert. But the next day – my friend had piqued my interest – I went and bough their first album, ‘Unknown Pleasures’, which had literally just come out.

Straight away l loved it. It was urban, it was weird, it was glitchy, mysterious. You couldn’t quite work out what the lyrics meant and I would think about them and try to form a narrative from them, stories from the lines that I could make out. I’d just started being the singer in a band, a punk band in Fife. They were called The Dancing Pigs and I became their vocalist, just as they were beginning to move into New Wave and we were getting more influenced by people like The Cure and Joy Division and it was just one of those things.

At university everything was up for grabs. Someone said, “Do you want to sing in a band?” and I go, “Yeah.” Do you want to stand up and recite your poetry to an audience? “Yeah.” Do you want to try writing for a newspaper? “Yeah?” It was the punk ethos, this was 1978 or ‘79 and the punk ethos was to just give it a go. You don’t have to have gone to Oxbridge or a private school, you don’t have to be able to play an instrument, you don’t have to have contacts in the publishing world – just get on and give it a go.

Do you think that afforded you more integrity than if you had those foundations?

What it meant was that you were genuine and you were hungry. You don’t just fall into this stuff; you had to work hard to get any breaks that were going. You had to be keen and you had to have thick skin because you were going to get rejections a lot of the time. But there was this ‘can do’ attitude; let’s just give it a go; what’s the worst that could happen?

So that was all swirling around at that time. I was starting to send poems and short stories into magazines and radio stations, getting loads of rejection letters back and living in a fairly seedy student flat in Edinburgh in the winter, when it’s dark all day. I was listening to Joy Division, feeling very urban and gritty, and wanting to be Ian Curtis.

There’s a more European aesthetic to this music, especially compared to things like The Sensational Alex Harvey Band.

Yeah, you notice that very much on the Scottish scene. Bands like Simple Minds, whose second album ‘Real To Real Cacophony’ was very Germanic, bit of Can in there, bit of Kraftwerk. There was a sense they wanted to stretch themselves. They weren’t happy just doing three-minute songs – well, eventually they would be happy doing that, but not at that stage in their lives. There was a lot of leftfield stuff coming out of Scotland.

I was just having this conversation with my mate. There have been very few very successful Scottish bands, and it’s because they are too quirky, you can’t put them in box. I mean The Jesus & Mary Chain, Boards Of Canada, The Blue Nile, Josef K... Almost all the Scottish bands that I like, it’s very hard to put them into a box and market them. They’re not easily marketable.

Do you think there was a cross fertilisation going on with what you were reading?

Yeah, you found out that The Cure had written a song about Albert Camus’s The Outsider, ‘Killing An Arab’, so you went and read the book. I mean The Velvet Underground had kind of started with ‘Venus In Furs’, and that got you scrabbling around trying to find a copy. There was a lot of, “Let’s read Kafka, let’s read Heart Of Darkness,” on the back on Apocalypse Now. Let’s read all of these strange, outsider novels, novels about not fitting in.

It was predominantly music and literature for young men who felt like they didn’t belong anywhere and were happy sitting in their bedsit wearing their second-hand coat that they got from the Oxfam shop as they fed coins into the gas meter and listened to The Cure. Or Throbbing Gristle. Or Joy Division. Or A Certain Ratio, or whatever it happened to be. Feeling estranged: that’s what it was. But at the same time I was writing all these dark short stories about nihilism and urban despair, which would eventually get channelled into the Rebus novels.
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knew of rankin but thats a great article as i can relate to the feeling he's expressing & that just sums up what punk gave/gives me.....the 'get up & just do it!' notion,still motivates me 'till this day!btw,just listening to this:

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Am a big rankin fan and have read all the rebus books (new one out next month [smile]).
he has really interesting music taste which he references in his books and he is a big
supporter of upcoming scottish bands.  

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That twat from One Direction was wearing a JD t-shirt at some awards show and it made me want to stab my eyes out.
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Had to google to believe it.

http://20wattsmag.com/2013/09/you-are-wearing-a-joy-division-shirt-because-of-fashion-and-not-music/
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Had to google to believe it.

http://20wattsmag.com/2013/09/you-are-wearing-a-joy-division-shirt-because-of-fashion-and-not-music/

Yes, I am proudly a Joy Division snob and that made me sick. That twat doesn't speak Ian.
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He does not speak Ian at all, Elizabeth.

He says Joy Division's music is "near impossible to dance to". How wrong is that? Quite often, at night, I put one of my Joy Division CDs on and I'm dancing away in the dark to loads of songs. "Near impossible to dance to", my socks!!! 

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He does not speak Ian at all, Elizabeth.

He says Joy Division's music is "near impossible to dance to". How wrong is that? Quite often, at night, I put one of my Joy Division CDs on and I'm dancing away in the dark to loads of songs. "Near impossible to dance to", my socks!!! 


This just confirms my suspicion that most of humanity is doomed.

I just made a 3-day drive across the country and danced in my car to Dead Souls and Digital. It's absurd to think that someone could call Joy Division's music "impossible to dance to". Insanity. That kid is just another in a long list of acts that blur into one... we all know that Joy Division is a one-off, never to be repeated. Let the masses remain ignorant.

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Yeah, I'll agree there! Some people I know like Joy Division, but aren't obsessed with them, like I am, and most of the people I know either haven't heard of them, unless they've heard me listening to their music and asked me what it was or know Joy Division because of me blasting it out on my CD player pretty much all the time!!! Let the masses be ignorant - indeed. They are very ignorant. 

And when you were talking about insanity, I thought for a minute you were referring to my dancing in the dark, but it was the fact that other people are insane, like that person saying Joy Division are "near impossible to dance to". 

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dwid hellion from my favourit h.c. band 'integrity' is also a J.D. fan....which took me by surprise.

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Lionel Messi?
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i have read full article and shocked to see that famous footballer is a fan of our joy division
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A big fan passed away last Christhmas. 

RIP George Michael.

http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/george-michael-morrissey-joy-division-1984-eight-days-a-week-1924575

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Hi,

Benoit Hamon, who may (we hope !) become in 5 days the socialist candidate for the French presidential election in 2017 (against the rightist traitor and liar Manuel Valls) :

http://www.rollingstone.fr/benoit-hamon-un-candidat-dans-rolling-stone/

- when he was Young, his parents were listening to Joe Dassin
- from 12 to 14 : fan of hard-rock (Status Quo, AC/DC, Motörhead, Saxon)
- never was a fan of Beatles/Stones (only laterly listened to The Beatles)
- at 15, he started to be a big fan od new wave/cold wave [it was around 1983-1984]:

"When i was in high school in Brest [in the extreme west of Brittany], i changed of visual look and musical style. My friends were hardcore fans of The Smiths. They bought everything that was released by them. At this time, Brest was very mancunian. The same year [1984 probably] i found "Unknown Pleasures" of Joy Division and the cold voice of Ian Curtis. I was also listening to Depeche Mode but it is mostly the cold wave period of The Cure that got me, with "Seventeen Seconds". Musically, i still think that The Cure were over every other bands, and that Robert Smith is still one of the best British songwriters alive. But i had mixed feelings about them : i liked their music, but i was not a big fan of their androgynous makeup faces. At that time i was wearing a dark blue long coat up to my boots (laughs).
Music is always a story of friends, at that time i was getting some live tapes [!!!!] and at one time i got The Sisters Of Mercy. Their music was very powerful, it was a mix between goth and dark wave. Behind this dark curtain, they had good melodies like "Marian" or "Alice". I remember that the band of Andrew Eldritch had a lot of different members, there were more temporary jobs than
I will advice "First And Last And Always", the first album released in 1985. This is just one hell of a killer album with Eldritch and Wayne Hussey on guitar, who will became the leader of The Mission. During a lot of evenings i listened to "Marian" and "Black Planet". Their music was so danceable.  
I was going to the Mélo [dance club in Brest], this was the HQ of all the cold wave movement in Brest. I was never rejecting a pogo dance, especially when the DJ was playing "This Is Not A Long Song" of Public Image Limited.
My first musical shock was the first live of The Cure, from 1984. The album was taped in London and Oxford, i listened to it hundred of times ! The best of The Cure live : the beautiful "Charlotte Sometimes", "the hypnotic "A Forest", or the jewel "Killing An Arab".

Wow.

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