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from http://www.johnlydon.com/interviews/pil04.html

 

... I like people from any structure when they are honest. I liked Joy Division at the time, very early lot, and all that nonsense about the singer killing himself was like well, ‘how fashionable, but how stupid’!

A lot of people think Joy Division are depressing, but I don’t find them depressing at all.

No not all. What, it’s depressing to solve your problems? Is it depressing to know you have emotions, are these depressing, NO! I love them (laughs). To me music isn’t just there to make you happy, it’s to make you feel everything possible, including suicidal, which in its on weird way can be helpful.

I’ve heard that said about PiL too, but I don’t know how they could find it depressing.

On the first album that line from ‘Theme’, “I wish I could die, I will survive” they used that here years back in a psychiatric clinic and it actually helped people with suicidal tendencies because they could relate directly to the emotion in it. It was like, ‘somebody else feels that too’, so for it to be seen as nihilistic is completely wrong, it’s a cry for help song. And that’s what Joy Division were. ...


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That's a really good quote.. I like his interpretation.
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Thanks for posting that. Always good to hear something from John. Great way of looking at it. 
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Good quote. Definitely increased my respect for Johnny.

Here's a present for you guys, it's John Frusciante covering New Dawn Fades.



He puts his soul in it. John loves Joy Division; Bernard Sumner is his all time favourite guitarist. I wouldn't be surprised if he would say that Joy Division was a band that helped him get through his drug habits.
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Yep, saw that some time ago. Definately one of the better covers out there.
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Quote: "Bernard Sumner is his all time favourite guitarist"

Really, Komrad? He always used to say it was Andy Gill (Gang of Four).

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I'm pretty sure it's Sumner. From Wikipedia: "Red Hot Chili Peppers' guitarist John Frusciante has noted in several interviews that Sumner is his all time favourite guitarist."

He also said that he used to really analyze Bernard's playing from a theoretic point of view, and that it helped him with his own playing. He's a big fan of the band.


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Personally I've always thought JD and PIL to be extremely close in musical styles, particularly say comparing Metal Box and Unknown Pleasures, Levene v Sumner, Wobble v Hooky etc......


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I've just finished Kevin Sampson's - Stars are Stars novel which is set in Liverpool 1979. Lot's of Erics scenes & JD ref's.  Also the main character is a big JD fan who even goes to Paris LBD to see them!

Well recommended reading for an insight of those who weren't around at the time.

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Apparently Eva Mendes likes New Order and Joy Division
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my friend told me he was watching Jay Lenno the other night, and he was speaking with Drew Barrymore about all these gay-ass 80's movies she's been doing lately. Evedintly she did some name dropping, saying that she was into more "alternative 80's", and JD were the first words out of her mouth. haha


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i remember reading one time that kurt cobain from nirvana was a big fan of joy division and he once said he could never wright a song without borrowing something from joy division also his wife courtney love is a big joy division fan.
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Jeremy Vines perfect playlist is quite interesting

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/03/15/bmplaylist115.xml

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I couldn't agree more with his "Magazine" comment:

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"Magazine are the most criminally underrated band in the past 25 years of British pop in my view. Howard Devoto was a total pop genius, but he was a slightly misshaped pop star and I think nobody really got him. Simple Minds should not have been big, but Magazine should have - someone made a clerical mistake somewhere..."

Saw them live several times, once in 1979 supported by a seminal Simple Minds. They totally plagiarised Magazine in every way apart from the talent, yet I've never ever seen Jim (Wayne) Kerr, namecheck Devoto as an influence. T*sser.

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A pretty good choice from Mr Vine, especially liked his comments about the mighty Magazine!
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Ha! We're psychic!
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Hey Phill, SNAP!

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That's still the loudest gig I've ever attended. What are your recollections of that one, C?
Do you remember we were bamboozled by the presence, backstage, of Sarah Brightman & Hot Gossip!?

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You're just making it up now Phil! Wish I'd been on the same drugs! (Or maybe its the ones I've taken since which have erased it from my memory)
I don't remember much of the gig to be honest, remember going out & buying the first Simple Minds album the next day (along with Sultans Of Swing if I remember correctly, I am so, so sorry!)
I don't even remember it being particularly loud, certainly not as loud as when I saw The Banshees / Human League / Spizz in Aylesbury.
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I kid you not, C! We pretty-much ignored everyone backstage except the main band, but Katherine insisted on asking Sarah Brightman for her autograph (bless... she was only 14!) and she says she's still got it somewhere, so I'm not making it up!
John McGeoch seemed very drunk, but he was nice with it. Howard Devoto, ironically, was sat virtually in the same spot Ian Curtis was, almost exactly a year later (this gig was 16/04/79.

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wow I really never knew they had so much love... doesnt really surprise me though they are that amazing
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Pretty sure I haven't seen Moby listed. His acoustic cover of New Dawn Fades on Later... was rather good.

Pat Nevin (ex-Chelsea & Scotland winger) has been listed - who remembers that full page photo of him in NME wearing an overcoat with the UP badge on his lapel?


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Shane MacGowan likes them. I bought a compilation bootleg video in Boston while on tour with him in 1995 and he loved it, in fact most of the band liked JD. I gave the tape to Kevin Sol, the then bass player with the support band 16 Horsepower 'cos it wouldn't play in my video. Dave Eugene Edwards the singer with 16 HP dedicated Twenty Four Hours to me at a gig in Whelans in Dublin a few years back, I was well chuffed. They were the last band I worked for. They used to do a few JD covers over the years...

P.S. Hello Dave!

Andrew (Spud!!!)

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I love 16 Horsepower. Great band. It doesn't surprise me at all that David is a JD fan.
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Michael Hutchence

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/11/michael_hutchence_remembered.html


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