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On a personal note,after years of research and breaking my b*lls i consider my UP issue with a1/b1 matrices + usual text but without s-xxx additions as a first.....until evidence to the contrary comes to light.thats the only way i can have peace of mind [wink]


If you’ve an a1/b1 matrix, it’s got to be a first pressing imo...
I bought the Stone Roses debut album literally the day of release, again in Spillers in Cardiff... It’s the a2/b2 matrix, for whatever reason there’s no a1/b1 pressing of this album, but it didn’t have the embossed cover so a lot of people wouldn’t regard it as a first pressing, even though it clearly is.
The identification of first pressings is never straight forward lol
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Its the same with NO's -movement-,the first release was an a2/b2 too:
https://www.discogs.com/de/New-Order-Movement/release/28847

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On a side note,here is the irish plant that produced(?) or prepared for the irish market.they also had a
translucent mix,it seems:
https://www.discogs.com/de/Joy-Division-Unknown-Pleasures/release/5861937


https://www.discogs.com/de/label/265380-Carlton-Productions

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...i don't know why i started again to post at this topic [rolleyes]

for sure dmxi has the one and only true first minute pressing, but for all others, i think UP must be pressed simultaneously on more than one pressing plant or machines (without the tr. red effect), so many 'first week' buyers can't be wrong and even the common website didn't mentioned what comes first and it even this sites show their weaknesses...

...the fact that some (or all) tr. red pressing have no extra etchings is no sign to be the earlier version for me! maybe the tranco pressing plant worker has no 'style' to scratch extra notes in the stampers (most records have after many runs no extra etchings) but it must exist more stamper plates, because every 500-1000 a new 'son' must be used and on one discogs entry a tr. red with etchings like AQ and AD are mentioned.

...we know the closer discogs entry about mr. hannet but it was not mentioned (or i did not understand it) what the 'color' had the 5000 copies!


it's long ago and i read some older post from us, i forgot how inflated it was! my hope was to find a few other guys here, but i see dmxi is the head of the class meanwhile [cool] so i wait another few years!


PS: IS THIS NECESSARY, what helps a pressing for the irish market or all the other post from other tr. red items???

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Like i said,after research and all contributions made by more knowledgable members here,i assumed that conclusion to rid myself of the head-aches it was creating.i have a hunch,that soon new revelations will hit the board that will clear or confuse this topic....then i will be "head of ass",for sure.i am looking forward to that day!
Thats why i am desperatly seeking for a solid/mintish black version,just to have a back-up which i am surprised not to already have.i mistakenly got the 'Rc' one.even a german metronome from '80 would do me but i lost faith in that one due to that perfect looking inoffial version.
Btw,tapes and cds have gripped my attention lately as factory really did a good job on those.love how they apllied the artwork,stunning and really attention worthy.
Sadly posters,flyers even stickers are extemely hard to get if you dont sit at the end of the rainbow on a pot o' gold.
But shouldn't moan,got a few og fotos,exhb.flyers and rare books and always on the look for an ignorant seller.i wish everyone luck whom does the same!

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