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mantaandy

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hello jd fans
i can by this record 7 inch
but with pss 138 on it not pss 139
is this a real one or fake

thx for your help

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its this one
who have pics of the lp

see link
http://www.joydiv.org/I2.htm

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Usually people can't buy an original 7" if they have rent to pay. And bills. Or tickets for a holiday flight or home.
The 7" sounds horrible anyway.
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'The Ideal Beginning' 7" (PSS138) is a bootleg release comprising Warsaw demo tracks, and is NOT to be confused in anyway with 'An Ideal For Living' 7" (PSS139).

As TJ_Davidson says above, the original release of PSS139 will set you back the equivalent cost of a holiday
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Totally correct Pat. Beginning is not Living. Besides, there is really no point in wanting a 7" of Beginning, simply because it's not the complete session. Best forget about buying any Ideal Beginning stuff and just tune into Youtube to hear it all.
Fage did a most excellent "remastering" of the July '77 session. I once heard it next to that 3" mini CD and the difference was just mindblowing.
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Sounds worth a listen TJ [wink]

Showing my age here, but i remember back in '86 or '87 ...when the 'You're No Good For Me' bootleg 7" came out, most people couldnt believe that a further track from that demo tape even existed, let alone had surfaced.

For some reason, i can remember swapping some tapes with a fan in France, and I told her about the new 7" release, and she refused to believe that it actually contained any new Warsaw / JD material (presuming it contained a fake JD track ...to cash in  ...such was the popularity of bootleg JD releases)
mantaandy

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the seller asking 50 euro
this is the cover from it

http://www.joydiv.org/images/tibbig.jpg

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It was interesting in the early 80's. But the music is no longer restricted to those hard to find bootleg vinyls. Just go to youtube and you can hear all five songs, not just the three here. And the artwork is pretty worthless too (because recycled from AIFL).
If I were you I'd keep those 50€ firmly in my pocket.

(All five songs also appear on the Warsaw album with the baby face, which may be more worth buying.)
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