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Thanks for this Øyvind.

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A Norwegion friend of mine got me a copy of the DVD from DVDHuset .... they are very fast and reliable it would seem .... I enjoyed watching it but there was'nt much that I did'nt know or see already apart from some rehearsal clips and the short Plan K bit .... Patrick

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A Norwegion friend of mine got me a copy of the DVD from DVDHuset .... they are very fast and reliable it would seem .... I enjoyed watching it but there was'nt much that I did'nt know or see already apart from some rehearsal clips and the short Plan K bit .... Patrick


er, maybe, just maybe, the documentary wasn't aimed specifically at you, I think (and I could very well be wrong here) that documentaries ("a creative treatment of actuality" -John Grierson) are aimed at a wider audience to provide enlightenment and entertainment.



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Got mine today, many thanks to Øyvind.
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Ditto. Cheers ¯yvind.

Just watched it and mad props to all concerned.

I would recommend newcomers to JD to watch this before they see Control.

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Got mine today as well and I think its absoulutely fantastic..you can just tell so much time and thought was put into it..thanks very much for sorting that out Øyvind!


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TheRealJon is absolutely right, it would be much better to see <Joy Division> before <Control> ... It will be a rare pleasure for whoever has the experience of it this way round!
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Thanks Øyvind, mine arrived today. Thankfully, I have been sitting on my copy of Control but have been waiting to watch this first.

So I actually do have that pleasure, just got to find four hours when the phone doesn't ring...

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What a joy (lower case) is in store for you, Slumpy. Lucky man.
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The DVD is still number 4 in Norway.

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One down and one to go. No way could I find four hours with no distraction/disturbance, so last night it was The Doc, and how good it was too. Well done to all concerned, with what must have been a difficult balancing act between band and Ian's death. Strangely I found myself covered in goose-pimples several times, hearing some songs almost for the first time, and found myself brushing away a tear on more than one occasion, for more than one reason.

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Just to be clear this disc will play on DVD players sold in the US right?

oyvindf, are you still shipping out copies?
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Yes, I am still shipping out copies. The DVD is Region 2 and I think you need a multiregion DVD-player to play it in the US. You are Region 1, aren't you?

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Before buying a different region DVD, try googling your DVD player and see if there is a code to make it play any region.  Many DVD players that are supposed to be single region can be changed to multi-region by entering in a code on the remote.  I was able to do this on my Toshiba DVD player even though it is supposed to be strictly region 1.  Most computer DVD drives will also read all regions although they typically require some kind of hack as well to be fully multi-region. 

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All DVD players made since about 2001 are capable of playing any DVD from any region - it makes more sense to make one re-programmable chip than 5, and it means they only have to make a single model. The only thing that varies is the code put onto the chip, and as has been stated, just about every one will have a crack available online.

Most PC DVD-rom drives are region free, but this can be easily changed by getting into the device manager and changing the settings on the region tab for the appropriate drive.  The one I currently have in this machine is 4 years old, has been hacked and cracked to burn DL discs even though it is not supposed to, and will play any DVD from any planet [except Uranus], so I guess newer ones will be even easier to work with.


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This is still coming out in the US March 25th, right? If so, I think I'm just gonna wait until then. Control also comes out here in the states on March 25th. Any word on if there are any differences between the UK and US Control DVD?


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Just back from Berlin - and no I didn't see Sam Riley.....

Thanks Oyvind - watched the doc last night - mainly brilliant - but I thought round about the time of the "Unknown Pleasures" reviews, fact gave way to arty posturing and the doc lost its way for a short time. 

Without revealing too much - I wait for years for the hypnosis tape - and the excerpt they play is dull!!!!!

Also Hooky wasn't really being fair on himself when he quoted the reasons for not seeing Ian's body in the chapel - he seems to put on a blokey front. Debbie quotes him at the inquest as saying "I'm sorry" and putting his arm on her shoulder - she found this to be a really touching gesture - this is a different attitude to the one he displays on the doc.

Other than that - absolutely brilliant - and let this be the last word on the band. "The Best Of" album and the "All The Time" film and any further books aren't needed.

Debbie has moved on and in a way so should we - we can be content with what is out there - the complete story is laid out for us all to see. I certainly don't need to know the full contents of the last letter to Debbie or the whereabouts of his ashes - as these seem to be the only bits of info that were never divulged.

Rest In peace, Ian. 


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Bravo Lee..... couldn't agree with you more, as great and influential as they were there are some things that should be left alone, it all boils down to the morbid fascination of the following hoards.... Yes I know I'm one, we all are, but only the music matters, let that stand the test of time.

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Other than that - absolutely brilliant - and let this be the last word on the band.  "The Best Of" album and the "All The Time" film and any further books aren't needed. Debbie has moved on and in a way so should we - we can be content with what is out there - the complete story is laid out for us all to see.

so no need for any Joy Division / Ian Curtis web sites or any discussion thereafter, sounds a tad dictatorial...

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   Also Hooky wasn't really being fair on himself when he quoted the reasons for not seeing Ian's body in the chapel - he seems to put on a blokey front. Debbie quotes him at the inquest as saying "I'm sorry" and putting his arm on her shoulder - she found this to be a really touching gesture - this is a different attitude to the one he displays on the doc.

I remember exactly what he (and Stephen) were like directly after Ian's death, now I'm intrigued, it'll be interesting to see this doc.


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No - I meant any further books, films, compilations etc. There will always be people who will wish to discuss the band (including me) - there will always be new fans who wish to get further info - its just that there doesn't need to be any further material issued (as long as the albums books and docs stay in print). 


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Re-issue! Re-package! Re-package!
Re-evaluate the songs
Double pack with a photograph
Extra Track (and a tacky badge)
A-list, playlist
"Please them, please them!"
"please them, please them!"
(sadly, THIS was your life)

I was fawning, I was boring
Just a child from those ugly new houses
Who could never begin to know
Who could never really know
Best of! Most of!
Satiate the need
Slip them into different sleeves!
Buy both, and be deceived


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I reckon we could do with a decent live DVD collecting all the available video footage (there are only little clips in that documentary, right).. aside from that I agree though, no need for any more repackaging, re-evaluation etc in terms of releases. The small catalogue of J.D. stuff has been well and truly mined in the last couple of years.

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No - I meant any further books, films, compilations etc. There will always be people who will wish to discuss the band (including me) - there will always be new fans who wish to get further info - its just that there doesn't need to be any further material issued (as long as the albums books and docs stay in print). 



As long as the blistering power of the Something Else performance footage isn't widely available on DVD in pristine quality, in its entirety, the band's legacy isn't completely finished. It annoys me terribly that stills of IC from the broadcast were used for the covers of Heart & Soul and the Complete BBC sessions while the actual footage still hasn't been released. Come to think of it, THAT would have been a cool bonus to the "Greatest Hits" CD, instead of rehashing the BBC audio-recordings.
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"As long as the blistering power of the Something Else performance footage isn't widely available on DVD in pristine quality, in its entirety, the band's legacy isn't completely finished. It annoys me terribly that stills of IC from the broadcast were used for the covers of Heart & Soul and the Complete BBC sessions while the actual footage still hasn't been released. Come to think of it, THAT would have been a cool bonus to the "Greatest Hits" CD, instead of rehashing the BBC audio-recordings."

I couldn't agree more. I'm glad you picked up on those "stills" also. Often when stills are captured from a piece of moving footage, they invariably do the subject matter no justice. Though the performance, as you say, was transcendent, Ian didn't look his best and to use such stills in an official capacity (given that far better pictures were available to the designers) has always niggled me.

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