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That's true enough, but if they were using the setup to just capture a rough sketch of a song with relatively clear lyrics, it'd be a quick and dirty way of doing it (as long as the PA was turned right down - obviously that'd have an effect on any accurate monitoring, but it'd do the job at a pinch).  I've done the same thing with cassette recorders back in the day.


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They left Davidson's early 1980.
I remember the reel to reel on the floor in the previous photo, it belonged to Stephen, an expensive piece of kit, it allowed multi track recording - he loved it.
LWTUA was obviously recorded after they'd vacated Davidson's (he probably charged them a fortune for the privilege) 

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Some update for page:
tentatively October / November 1977 and January 1978 rehearsals supposedly was at Alexandra Park or The Salford Arms because they moved to TJ Davidson in late of 1978.
And tentatively November / December 1979 rehearsal maybe in the Rialto in Salford because according "Torn Apart" book they left TJ Davidson autumn 1979.


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Did they ever bring the reel to reel to their shows to record ?
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Why would they record a gig on a tiny little reel-to-reel, when they could just as well record it decently from the mixing desk?
Bands have their instruments to care about when on stage, not the making of distorted or muffled amateur recordings.
I'm certain it didn't happen.
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Why would they record a gig on a tiny little reel-to-reel, when they could just as well record it decently from the mixing desk?
Bands have their instruments to care about when on stage, not the making of distorted or muffled amateur recordings.
I'm certain it didn't happen.

Paradiso show was recorded by reel-2-reel. Maybe Paris show recorded as well but I'm not sure. Paris show recorded from audience with radio mics in front of monitors, not from soundboard, how I think

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Any recording from a mixing desk should be able to be captured on the one of the mixer's outputs, of course, allowing for a proper mix, routed directly hopefully by xlr, or even phono into a stereo two track a reel to reel. No audience or ambient noise. Didn't JD have anyone manning the mixer ? Do Joy Division's old roadies take part in JDC ?




That doesn't make sense in most cases. Besides the PA you have the amps on stage and the drums. Esp. at not so big events, a lot of the sound comes from the stage and the mixer just makes some instruments louder and cares for the vocals. Sometimes you take some instruments completely out of the PA 'cause the amps on stage are so loud. A direct recording of the same mix that goes to the speakers would sound worse than an audience recording with decent mics. The live part of Still is a great example of mixing desk recordings sounding rather dry and dead. Esp. the bass that is recorded directly (not from a miced amp) sounds worse than on most audience recordings.

If you make a prefessional live-recording it is multitrack - every instrument is recorded seperately on a different track and - independant from the PA mix - you can later change the balance between the different instruments and even add effects to the single tracks etc.


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