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JDW

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Hello forum. I'm interested in combing Still and Substance into one album, deleting the repeated tracks (of course).

I would much prefer a chronological order of all those songs instead of having for example their 77 song No Love Lost coming straight after Love Will Tear Us Apart and have LWTUA as the ending song.

The only decent source is Wikipedia but they only state the year and since JD only released so many songs, months mean all the difference especially how fast they evolved.

So where could I make the job of putting the songs from Still/Substance into chronological order!?
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Check out the Sessions page http://www.joydiv.org/sessions.htm where you'll find details about when the various songs were recorded.


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thanks,
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1. Warsaw
2. No Love Lost
3. Leaders of Men
4. Failures
5. Digital
6. Glass
7. Autosuggestion
8. From Safety to Where...?
9. Exercise One
10. Walked in Line
11. The Kill
12. The Only Mistake
13. Something Must Break
14. Transmission
15. Novelty
16. Atmosphere
17. Dead Souls
18. Ice Age
19. The Sound of Music
20. These Days
21. Love Will Tear Us Apart
22. She's Lost Control
23. Komakino
24. Incubation


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A major problem is that the non- album tracks are so disparate: there are classic singles, a gauche early EP and out- takes of variable quality, so they don't make for a satisfying mix.

Factory then managed to make a major hash of Still and, even more so, Substance. The decision to treat every record as having an A and B side, and the subsequent sequencing nightmare, makes Substance a horror to listen to and a major lost opportunity. A vinyl issue of the proper singles (Plus Digital and Glass) would have been amazing, and the rest could have been left as the CD bonus tracks.

I would recommend two separate discs / sequences, one for the singles and the other for the out- takes. Where you put An Ideal for Living remains a problem.
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Thanks Wallflower for that list. I did one and ended up a little different, for example something must break is from a different session and comes later than the unknown pleasures outtakes?
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JDW, in between the Unknown Pleasures outtakes and the 2nd Transmission session (there were two), there was the 1st Transmission session, where the band laid down the two songs of the single, "Dead Souls," and "Something Must Break." "Something Must Break" received a remix for release on Still, as did "Exercise One," "Walked in Line," "The Kill," and "The Only Mistake." So the order that I present is proper.

For an individual session, the order of the songs doesn't matter; you could put the UP outtakes in any order, for instance, as we don't know the order in which the tracks were recorded.

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