Cagney
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Hey what do you hear what do you say, Does anyone know how to tell this 2014 pirated unofficial Substance LP: https://www.discogs.com/Joy-Division-Substance/release/6193617 apart from the original real 1988 pressing: https://www.discogs.com/Joy-Division-Substance/release/3737616 I can't determine any difference. They have the exact same catalog numbers (RTD 70, Fact250) and matrix numbersMatrix / Runout (Side A, etched): RTD 70 A G. Pauler Matrix / Runout (Side B, etched): RTD 70 B G. Pauler Is there any expert here who can tell me how to tell the original from the fake? Anyone seen one of the fakes? Is G. Pauler stamped or handwritten in the deadwax
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If it's got shitty audio it's a pirate.some even state the etchings bleed onto tracks.
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Cagney
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Thanks I don't have a copy so I can't hear it. Is G. Pauler hand etched on the fake?
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The original German RTD pressing from 1988 has a dark green textured outer sleeve, the recent unofficial repress has a very dark/black smooth sleeve. On the original the cat.no etc on the back cover is printed about 2,1 cm from the top, on the repress it's about 5 cm from the top. The track listing etc on the original back cover is printed ca 0,4 cm from the bottom, on the repress it's ca 1,1 cm from the bottom. The original has a narrow run-off area (ca 1,3 cm) on side A with a smaller "G. Pauler", the repress has a much wider run-off area on side A, ca 2,5 cm, and "G. PAULER" in capital letters. The unofficial pressing is available in green vinyl as well as black. There may be other unofficial pressings I've not seen that may look even more like the original for all I know.
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Cagney
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Thanks man this is such a clear and thorough answer. I really appreciate it!
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You're very welcome!
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Forgot to mention that only the original has the printed inner sleeve.
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