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lelebi

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@Truth why would they call 'No love Lost' 'Soundtrack' in 1978, when it was recorded and released as 'No love lost', before those shows?


for JD I cannot say, as I was not there of course. but for other bands in which I was involved (I mean local bands) it was quite normal to have a working title for a song you are use to play in the rehearsal room and keeping with it even after an official release. normally the working title comes from one band member which use it to remind the riff or its part, then if you start to change the name he can get confused on stage...and I can see this still happening for nowadays bands, when I manage to take the setlist off the stage: I've seen many titles as "single" "new one" "last one" or whatever.
maybe it was like that also for JD.
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The song 'Warsaw' has the word "soundtrack" in the 1st line of the 2nd verse. This was never at any time called 'Soundtrack' though?
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Stephen Morris answered the question about Soundtrack a while back. The song was definitely Exercise One.

Finished the book masel last night, quality read as Hooky is a great story teller, always has been. Preferred his Hacienda book if I'm honest though.

As good as the stories were, the lack of info regarding set lists, his stash of tapes and more info on rehearsals etc... coupled with several factual errors which could have been ironed out if he got the Joy Division Bootleg Society involved meant I couldnae fully enjoy the book.

Only one picture of note involving the band I hadnae seen was the one with Harry De Mac.

Hopefully the book will spur Stephen and Bernard to put out their accounts, doubt it'll happen though. Roll on the New Order book.

6/10
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It appeared that most of the timeline was *borrowed* from here as well. That's a nice thumbs up to Marko and everyone else who contributes.

I should also say I don't blame Hooky on forgetting stuff from 30 years ago, I just wish he'd spoken to people who might have helped him remember a bit more.

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I have found the answer to my own question

The HMV Special Edition:

Signed by Peter Hook
Limited edition 1000 copies
Comes in a cardboard box slip case
Has one extra page - the one Hooky signs which also states that it's a limited edition

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Didn't Steve Morris say I Remember Nothing for Soundtrack?

http://lwtua.websitetoolbox.com/post/quotSoundtrackquot-song-from-setlists-4994398

I hadn't seen the Bowden Vale picture before other than in the NME the other week and it was good to see that colour one from the European tour without having to buy one of Ozit's dodgy releases. Interesting to see two of the grainy black and white photos from Ian's wedding that were in Form and Substance appear in pristine condition in Hooky's book.
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Fook.

My memory is worse than Hooky's!!!

Cheers Phil
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Went to Hooky's talk at Morley Town Hall tonight, I got a postcard (that I picked up from the 30th anniversary of Ian's death exhibition in 2010) signed by Hooky. I mentioned that I'd been there for the Plan K screening and that the power had been cut off midway through - Hooky said that it had amused him greatly, as Steve Morris had neglected to tell him about the whole thing being organised! 

The talk itself was very interesting - I haven't read the book yet, but according to my dad (who has read it) a lot of the stories from the book were recycled for the talk. Hooky had plenty of subtle (and not-so-subtle) digs at Barney throughout the talk!

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Great book by Hooky. Only wish it was longer but to be fair 30 years is a long time to try to piece stuff back together. A difficult job and I am glad at least one of them has done it before we all shuffle off. Sure there are occasional errors but there were errors in JD/NO too. I did not like them because they were perfect. It was because there was enough in there speaking to my soul and the errors just made it human. Also plenty of LOL moments too. Wont spoil them but Barney's bath water with his dinner floating about him. PMSL.  Well done Hooky. Stay positive mate. That is where you are best.
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"Don't forget HMV have a signed edition for £20 !"

is this true?i'll order straightaway if someone can verify that this is what i think it is,a personal signed book by the man himself?

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not sure if hmv still doing the signed one but other sites are:

http://www.foyles.co.uk/witem/music-dance/unknown-pleasures-signed-first-edition,peter-hook-xsignf0935

have just finished reading it and it was very good.
just what you expect from a hooky book. short and simplistic.
some really funny moments. some of his 'on tour' tales are
hilarious. fair few digs at barney in the first few chapters.
it could be said that a hell of a lot of the detail
is available in other books, torn apart, shadowplayers etc.
but the book has a personal feel. a couple of photos i hadnt
seen before. but overall i enjoyed it.  7.5/10.

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is it a signed (not copied) version or am i misunderstanding "signed edition"?
jdvision1970,you're link has no reference to the book.

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I ordered the exclusive signed edition for £20 from HMV last week.

They emailed me the other day to say it was on it's way - so looks like I have managed to snag one!

My understanding is that the exclusive version comes in a special slip cover. I also hope that is a genuine signature and not just a copy. I will let you know when I receive it.
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At the Foyles Q&A Hooky said that he had loads of unmarked cassette tapes of Joy Division stuff that were a pain to archive properly. Then I read this interview with Rob Barker about his connection with Sheffield.

http://www.exposedmagazine.co.uk/music/interviews/peter-hook-the-light/

with this quote:

"Someone recently gave me an undiscovered Joy Division jam tape from before Closer. It’s all the Closer songs, jammed. So it’s completely different. But it doesn’t have any new ones on it"

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apologies dmxi the link i was looking at had 'signed' copies through foyles.
that was this morning. have just searched again and cant find it.
my mate has ordered hmv 'signed' one for £20 and i will check with him
once it arrives.

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hope i still can get one in time & they're not sold out,'cuz of me not being sure if i understood:hmv signed copies 20 quid!so,if someone could verify before it's too late,eternal gratitude would be applied.
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can't anyone verify or at least shed some light to my questions,pleez!
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I've got it on reliable authority that Hooky has forged all the signatures on these books 
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Does anyone know anything about this 2nd/other version of the book, listed as being out in January from "It Books"?  Says it's 368 (correction: now it's up to 400!) pages (unlike 336 in the present Simon & Schuster UK edition), has a different cover and it's also a hardbound edition.  It's a US edition but I can't fathom how it could be 64 pages longer than the UK version.  
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Ok dmxi still waiting for my copy from HMV.

However, this very site now has an image of the HMV version. Looks genuine to me :-

http://www.joydiv.org/bk69.htm
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RiotNrrd

I think the 2nd/other one is the US version of the book which has a later release date

dmxi

HMV haven't helped by not explaining what the limited edition is. However, I bought the limited edition in store and it is individually signed.  Therefore it's reasonable to assume the same one on HMV.com is signed too


Does anyone know the story behind the HMV free CD? I'm listening to it now, Hooky interviewed by Mark Radcliffe, and it's not bad. How was this distributed - was it completely free with no strings attached ... harkening back to the Komakino flexi?



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Peter Hook interview:

Q. Joy Division was over 30 years ago. When writingUnknown Pleasures, did you have to do some detective work to bring memories back?

A. I used joydiv.org, which had a list of the gigs. Once we transcribed that list and went through it all, I noticed that some of them were wrong. My book contains the actual, right gigs.

See. http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2012-10/09/peter-hook-joy-division-new-order-interview
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I think the 2nd/other one is the US version of the book which has a later release date

That's pretty much what I already stated 

I'm asking if anyone knows what the differences are.  I can't for the life of me imagine why a US edition would be 64 pages longer?  Maybe an extra chapter on "A Child's Introduction To Joy Division"?
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probably just bigger font! everythings bigger in america..supposedly
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OK dmxi if you are still interested I came home from my Saturday morning shopping round the town to a nice surprise on my doormat.

Postman had left my HMV exclusive book whilst I was out. Very, very nice - it is encased in a very sturdy cardboard box / slipcover. The book itself is wedged so tightly in the slipcover it is quite hard to extract bu I guess it will loosen up over time. The slipcover certainly did a good job of protecting the book on delivery as the fall from my letter box to the floor would have normally dinged the book. In this case both the slip cover and book are still minty mint.

The Hooky signature looks genuine to me - i.e by human hand in biro not printed = my number is 425 out of limited edition of 1000. On the back of the slipcover the price is listed as £40 - so for £20 delivered I feel like I got a bargain and nice future collectible.


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