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Hello, I'm a long-time lurker here, but thought I'd sign up to ask about something that has been bugging me for several years. One of my favourite JD live shows is the Leeds Futurama Festival gig of 8 September 1979. I think most would agree that it's something of a classic, especially with the band performing not one but three of their 'long' set openers/closers i.e. 'I Remember Nothing', 'Atrocity Exhibition' and 'Dead Souls' (the latter possibly an encore?).

Well, here's the thing. Between the end of 'Atrocity' and the beginning of 'Dead Souls', there is what seems to be a tape break or cut, during which there is a couple of seconds of what sounds very much like the opening bars of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart', with Ian thrashing away at his Vox Phantom.

Could this possibly be the remnants of a version of LWTUA that was played on that night? I've not seen it mentioned on a setlist from the show (though presumably these have been compiled from the songs on the bootleg tape). If it was played that night, would this then have been the song's first live outing? It's an interesting one - if I'm honest, I suspect that the small remnant has somehow ended up on the tape is from a later show, perhaps during some later tape dubbing process? It would certainly be strange for Ian to strap on his guitar and Barney to tinkle the ivories after 'Atrocity'. Then again, playing 'Dead Souls' after 'Atrocity' is also a little odd.

I'd be very interested to hear if anyone else has noticed this, or has any opinions on this ghost version of LWTUA!
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http://www.joydiv.org/c080979.htm
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Thanks dmxi, I've already seen the listing there - as I said, the setlist that appears on the concert page may well have been simply taken from the track listing of the bootleg tape (don't think I've seen an original setlist for the gig). What do you think of the brief snatch of sound between the final two tracks?
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i'm not sure regarding the 'snippet' but did you check the 'did you see JD live' segment &/or the threads covering JD's session/recording/rehearsal chronicles?sorry, that i can't be more of help.......regards....d.
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Thanks dmxi, I'll have a browse through that thread again [smile]
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There's more than one recording of the gig, strange that it doesn't feature on any of the recordings. Would everyone have missed half the encore, especially for a song that didn't surface until over a month later? As far as we know, LWTUA was written during the Buzzcocks tour, and first appeared at Plan K in Brussels. Given how they used to really work on the new ones live, you'd expect it to be on one of the recordings before then if they'd played it as early as 8th September.
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Very good points TJ - it would seem that my suspicion that it has ended up on the tape by some other means (i.e. during a later bootlegger's dubbing session) could be correct...or, of course, that it isn't a snippet of LWTUA at all, but just sounds like it. Thanks for that [smile]
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Been away from JD Central for a while and noticed this interesting thread a couple of weeks ago...I''ve subsequently been back in touch with a few geezers who helped me with the Joy Division in Yorkskshire article (http://www.joydiv.org/yorkshire.htm) and who were present at Futurama 79; none of them recall LWTUA being played at the Queen's Hall that day. We must keep in mind, however, that besides being the greatest musical event ever to take place within the Leeds urban area (apart from McBusted at the First Direct Arena last week, what a happening, man) Futurama was also a massive orgy of dope and drink, so memories may have become a little fuzzy over the years. My own feeling is LWTUA was not performed, but of course personal opinion has nothing to do with research. I'd love to be proved wrong.
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No it wasn't.
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